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I once had to stop morphine for a short time. By stopping it gradually for about six weeks suffered no side effects at all. So was happy too resume taking as I was in horrendous pain without . Bobcaz
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Hi SooB16 & Bobcaz, you are so right and your comments dispell the theory of addiction. I used to take codeine till it could not be bought over the counter, reverted to aspirin which eventually caused stomach pain so I stopped, paracetamol was then advised and following a fall and broken bones I went onto tramadol. Although my doctor increased my dose I still only use a couple over a day when pain is bad, at the hospital they suggested GAbapentin but I refused to take it as it affects the COPD/Asthma cough. We are all different unique infact so how we and our bodies deal with pain and drugs is different.
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I was on TRAMADOL for 10 yrs. The side effects were really bad but I persevered. Now that I no longer need it I started reducing dosage from August 2016. 200mg x 2 daily. When I got down to 100mg x 2 daily I nearly gave up as the symptoms were so bad. I am 81 why bother? But obstinate me would not let it beat me. I wanted to be off well before Christmas Day. I took my last TRAMADOL on 30th November. I still have a few nasty moments but I consider myself free of it. Had I been told the side effects I would never have considered taking it.
M advice to others is to speak with your G.P. get him to go through everything you and consider carefully before you decide.
Now my brain is beginning to work again but it decides to be fully awake the minute I get into bed and stays so till about 4am before I finally get to sleep.
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Hi Wennafromwales, your post does raise an interesting issue round opiods for pain, your Tramadol dosage was very high compared to mine mine is prescribed like other painkillers 50mg four times a day or two 50mg tablets four times a day if pain is bad. But guess that amounts to the same intake of drug per day but maybe staggered it as less severe side effects and I do not seem to be addicted as I can go without and cope with pain some of the time. I know of others who cannot tolerate it at all. I think doctors should look more closely at alternatives if possible, due to the risk of addiction as you experienced. I have been taking it on and off since 2004, but don't think opiods should stop being prescribed if they suit some patients. Only side effect I find difficult is the mind effects like forgetting things and disrupted sleep. But they do make you sickly if large doses are used what they call nausea which isn't nice either. Glad you are picking up since stopping and hope your progress continues.
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I RECENTLY WAS IN HOSPITAL FOR SIX WEEKS WITH SEPTIS IN THE HIP ,my hips are bone to bone but cant have an operation for a year ,i am suffering bad pain and th only thing that woks is mophine patches and paracam meven then still in pain ,can anyone suggest any pain killers that work better
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I am too on Morphine slow release but I am also on the Morphine liquid that is a quick realease. Sometimes might as well be smarties and water but I am worried about uping the amount I am taking incase this happens again and again and I become addicted to it. Can anyone tell me if I will or not
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i was on tramadol for around 12 yrs but been taken off it asmbeen told does not do anything while am on Morphine, I really NEED tramadol as the pain is getting worse. I never get to see same doctor in my surgery so keep being told different about pain killers I am so confused
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Pethidine 50mg tablets for 20 years very necessary for chronic pain from disc degeneration Fibromyalgia ME (Myalgic Encephalomyelitis) and osteoarthritis.
Am not addicted, some days n weeks I never use it but often my 3 day fentynal/duogesic pain patch comes off no matter how I try with obsite dressing n surgical tape, sometimes I am so hot n sweating and they just won't stay on and they like the pethidine are controlled drugs so my doc is only allowed to subscribe a certain number regardless of problems.
I can't walk without fentynal (morphine based) and pethidine n the pain is unbearable without them.
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Ive recently come off opoids after 16 years. I supplement with magnesium and vitamin D as well as having a b12 deficiency i also use b12 and b-complex. All these combined so far as well as gluten and dairy limited my pain is a lot better.
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I was diagnosed with Ankalosing Spondylitis 30 years ago and I have been taking morphine related drugs for the last 15 years plus. I have tried capsules, tablets and patches. I know I cannot do without this medication but I also think my body has got used to it too. I have had doctors and pharmacists query the dose of my medication. One nurse actually asked me what is it like to get high from morphine. I have never been high in my life. Unfortunately have also experienced the other side of morphine.
It was several years ago, I developed pneumonia over several days and I didn't realise how sick I was at the time. My medication compromised my breathing and O2 levels. On admission to hospital my morphine was stopped immediately. I can only imagine what I went through was 'cold turkey' The things that I thought was happening to me was horrendous. I thought my family had abandoned me and strangers had taken there part. It truly was an awful time.
It took several weeks before I fully recovered. The chronic pain persists and I have had to continue with the morphine. I finally got an appointment at my local pain clinic and was given an infusion of lignocaine and this I have found helpful and for that reason the infusions can be repeated.
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As a crackdown continues on opioid addiction, people with ailments like rheumatoid arthritis find it more difficult to get the pain medication they need.
September was Rheumatic Disease Awareness Month, and there was also Opioid Awareness Week. Perhaps this was intentional, as these two worlds often intertwine.
Many rheumatoid arthritis (RA) patients are painfully aware of the need for opioids in disease management. However, due to stricter regulations, new legislation, and an ever growing epidemic of opioid abuse, patients with RA and other chronic pain issues are facing more difficulty when it comes to getting the medications they say they need.
Arthritis Today Magazine did a lengthy story in their October 2016 issue featuring the pros and cons of opiates. The article expressed a concern over the growing epidemic of opioid addiction, abuse, and overdose. The article was applauded by some patients and patient advocates on various online forums, while it left others thinking it was too critical and painted a negative portrait of people with chronic pain who rely on painkillers.
The problem, it seems, is that many people do, in fact, misuse these highly addictive drugs. People can start with a legitimate need for painkillers and become physically addicted. This can lead to abuse and even an overdose. It can also lead to desperate people resorting to other, more dangerous options, such as heroin, to feed the addiction, when all they were looking for to begin with was a way to alleviate their ongoing pain. However, not all patients fit into this category. In fact, most chronic pain patients do not.
Opinions on opioids
In an online survey conducted on the Arthritis Ashley Facebook page, 85 percent of respondents said they did not want to regularly use opiates in the first place but felt they had no other option. “When pain becomes unmanageable,” wrote Bethany Mills of Utah, “you do what you can to survive.”
Some people with chronic pain said they feel like they are out of options and are aware of the risks of opioid use, but they would still choose to use the drugs to relieve the disabling pain they deal with on a regular basis. They often are not offered other alternatives to alleviate their pain or other methods have failed to help them. “I have tried almost every way possible to deal with my pain,” wrote Sarah Kocurek. “But there are days the swelling in my hands is so severe that it cripples me, making me nauseous or cry out in pain. And then I have only one option left, my opioid pain medication."
Some doctors prescribe painkillers without first exploring other options like physical therapy or non-opioid painkillers. This can increase a patient’s tolerance, causing them to need higher or more frequent doses. It can also cause hyperalgesia. This condition is a heightened pain sensation, sometimes caused by opioid drugs. Instead of decreasing pain, the opiates can, after high-dose or long-term use, increase levels of pain in some people, causing them to want — or need — even more drugs.
According to the website for the nonprofit Institute for Chronic Pain, this can occur because “the nervous system can become abnormally sensitive to even certain medications used to alleviate pain. That is to say, opioid medications can become the stimuli to which the nervous system becomes abnormally sensitized. It can occur for a number of reasons, but one of them is when the use of opioids, particularly high doses of opioids, occurs over a long period of time.”
New guidelines and restrictions surrounding the prescription process are intended to make opioid use safer for patients. The latest guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) do note the difficulty of treating chronic pain. According to an abstract published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), the CDC notes the importance of the guidelines, stating, “Evidence of long-term efficacy of opioids for chronic pain is limited. Opioid use is associated with serious risks, including opioid use disorder and overdose.”
The CDC notes that doctors need to do a better job of explaining potential side effects to patients, and to really weigh the risks versus the benefits in prescribing this class of drug. According to their guidelines, “Non-opioid therapy is preferred for treatment of chronic pain. Opioids should be used only when benefits for pain and function are expected to outweigh risks.”
The regulations can sometimes make it difficult for patients with chronic pain disorders like RA to get these mediations regularly and in a timely fashion. Aside from the hoops that patients may have to jump through to obtain a legal prescription from their medical doctor, there is also the stigma they face from the general public.
Erasing the stigma
People with chronic pain know the look. The one they sometimes get when they seek treatment or pick up medication. “I’m sick of being labeled as a drug-seeker or treated like an addict every time I head to an emergency room or a pharmacy to manage my pain. Being young and female does not help, and I know other RA patients experience the same feelings,” Mills said.
Kocurek has had similar experiences. "I am one of the youngest patients my rheumatologist has,” she said. “And when I have to go into my 90-day appointments to refill my medications, I am constantly looked down upon. As if I am faking my illness to score a fix. And going to urgent care or the emergency room can be more difficult. You aren't believed. You are all but called a junkie.”
These issues were addressed at a recent Stanford MedX panel that discussed the topic of opioids from both patient and practitioner perspectives. However, Britt Johnson, the patient on the panel who represented the chronic pain community, detailed on her blog that she felt overlooked. Stanford Medical School did tweet out one of Johnson’s quotes from the panel. In it, Johnson said, “Pain is not politically correct. The media tells me that all opioids are all bad. The media forgot about me.”
Johnson’s stance is that the media oversimplification of opioid use and abuse is making it look like all opiate users are abusers or stereotypical addicts. Many times, patients are desperate for relief, access, and recognition. Many times, doctors feel obligated to help their patients feel better and have a better quality of life. Some of these doctors even continue to prescribe opioids to patients after an overdose.
But doctors, lawmakers, police, and politicians are also dedicated to protecting vulnerable populations from becoming addicted to drugs. However, many patients will say that without opioids, their lives are already ruined. “The pain of rheumatoid arthritis and dermatomyositis is crushing, so I use these meds because I have no other option if I want to survive,” Mills told Healthline. “But I do acknowledge that some people might misuse pain pills and that they can sometimes be unsafe.”
Other patients agree that there are pros and cons to both opioid use and opioid regulation. Some cite the fear of being stigmatized or judged as to why they won’t use them. “I am 54 and have had a diagnosis of RA for seven years,” said Marilyn Swallow of California. “I have never taken painkillers regularly, except over-the-counter drugs for RA. I have taken opioids following multiple surgeries, but I don't like the way I feel on them or the stigma attached to the use of opioids.” She continued, “I, however, don't judge others for using opioids, nor do I push my personal experience of choice on others. It's tough when another patient asks what I use for pain, and I explain my experience. I think people automatically go on the defense to justify their use of opioids. It's a fine line to walk.”
Kat Nowlin from Texas was diagnosed with juvenile idiopathic arthritis (JIA) before she was 2 years old. Her JIA has since progressed to a severe form of adult RA. “If I had to say a pro about legislation, it is the fact that there's a crackdown on the illegal nonmedicinal use of opioids,” Nowlin told Healthline. “A con for me would probably be the difficulties of having to get a prescription from the doctor in person each time it needs to be filled. This can delay actually receiving the meds as needed on the schedule for that medication. For me they helped me with the breakthrough pain and took the edge off the major pain. But in the past six months I had to get taken off of them due to a liver enzyme issue.”
What can be done?
Despite the risks of addiction, doctors note there is a need for both the use of opiates and the restrictions surrounding them. At a Stanford MedX panel last month, Dr. Jeanmarie Perrone, professor of emergency medicine at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania noted, “I need good pain management to work in the emergency room. We need these drugs. We just need to be conscientious about it.”
Patients don’t disagree with the need for careful prescription and conscientiousness surrounding the prescription of these drugs. “Of course, no decent human being wants other people to become addicted to opioids, or heroin, or to overdose and die,” said Mills. “But, at the same time, we don’t want restricted access to these medications that alleviate our pain, just because of the fear of that happening.”
The fear, however, is rooted in reality. The NHS recently granted $53 million in funding to help address the opioid addiction epidemic. About 2 million Americans have an addiction to prescription opioid pain relievers. The issue that many RA patients have when discussing opioids is that they feel their legitimate need for the drugs is lumped in with those who use and abuse these drugs recreationally. The message that patients want to get out is that many people with chronic pain legitimately need these drugs and are not using them “for fun” or for a quick high.
And patients just want to be heard. At the MedX panel, Johnson said, “I’m sitting here and the discussion about the pain crisis is happening around me … and it could be happening with me. We could be having a real discussion here.”
There may be hope on the horizon. A 2016 study detailed research that could perhaps lead to the “perfect” non-opioid painkiller.