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This is terrible...we should be protecting our healthcare professionals not making them feel guilt for being human.
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Doctors are under tremendous pressure these days. They are made to work very long hours without sufficient breaks to rest or nourish themselves. They need to be supported by their seniors. When under such pressure of work, mistakes are liable to happen. It is bad enough that doctors make errors of judgement under pressure, but it is worse when their seniors condemn them instead of supporting them. Sure,when they make serious mistakes, they are liable for their actions. But that does not mean they do not deserve support from their seniors. These doctors have the rest of their lives to repent for their errors. it would make it easier for them to bear and not drive them to suicide. That's my opinion any way.
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@nineteen_gale Yes, you are certainly right. The statistics are shocking and we do need to support our health care providers.
What do other members think?
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Thank you Josephine0
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There is and has been a lack of Mental health care available for many years especially if the hospital didn’t have a mental health ward.
Mental health care has not been available to everyone, there is a high demand on the service.
we should look after our doctors all medical staff, ambulance staff, firefighters and police but most of all everyone.
The government have got a lot of work to get the Mental Health Service up to the standard required
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@Pippadog Yes, I completely agree with you. The government seems to just sweep mental health issues underneath the carpet when I doubt anyone has gone through their life without suffering mentally, just as no one has gone through their life without becoming physically sick at some point.
I hope to see the world change and the stigma surround mental health will change. It is all about honest conversations.
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Standard treatment for anxiety/depression is an SSRI drug. it helps most patients but much more could be done. l am a GP in Dublin and 12 years ago I went to Sydney to learn about the biochemistry of mental health. I find it very useful and I reckon I have seen over 2000 patients since, There is no doctor in UK doing this but I got a call from the Maudsley Hospital where a consultant wanted to know where she could learn more. The basic knowledge is in Nutrient Power by Wiliam Walsh PhD. Website is www,walshinstitute.org. A useful advance is LDN ([link removed by Moderator for violation of community standards]) . It works for over 200 physical and mental conditions . it is cheap, has minimal side effects and I prescribe it a lot. An example is two woman and two men who were sexually assaulted. LDN worked well and two of them have partners now. I know of a psychiatrist in Harvard Medical School who uses Nutrient Therapy and lowdosenaltrexone. Finally recent research in USA showed that a statin, usually used to reduce cholesterol, can reduce psychotic episodes by 15% for BP patients and 30% for schizophrenia. Edmond
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Patients rely on doctors to look after their mental health but is enough being done to help the doctors when they are the ones with problems? There are concerns that some medical professionals in England are unable to get the help they need.
In 2017, 26-year-old junior doctor Sophie Spooner suffered a panic attack while working on a paediatrics ward.
Twenty-four hours later, she had taken her own life.
Her mother, Dr Laurel Spooner, believes her suicide was the result of depression which she had struggled with in the past. She had previously been diagnosed with bi-polar disorder.
"She was looking for a mental health service that would have understood her mental health problem in the context of being a doctor," Dr Laurel Spooner told the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme:
"If she could have seen somebody… and had the right medication, I expect she would still be here."
'Incredibly high risk'
Figures from the Office for National Statistics, covering England, showed that between 2011 and 2015, 430 health professionals took their own lives.
The NHS Practitioner Health Programme (PHP), is the only confidential service that offers doctors a range of assessments, treatment and case-management for all mental health problems.
But doctors can only self-refer to the PHP, without the need to tell their Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG), if they work in London.
Others can access the service, but in telling their CCG they consequently lose their anonymity.
Its medical director, Dr Clare Gerada, says: "Doctors are at an incredibly high risk for mental illness," she said. "Female doctors have up to four times the risk of suicide in comparison to people in the [general] population."
In 10 years, the PHP has helped more than 5,000 doctors, of whom slightly over two-thirds were women. The average age has dropped from 51.6 years to 38.9.
But doctors can only self-refer if they work in London.
Other doctors can access the service, but they must do so via their local clinical commissioning group (CCG), thereby losing their anonymity.
In texts to her mother before she died, Sophie Spooner said she feared she would be sent into hospital if she revealed her mental health issues and her colleagues would find out.
She also expressed her anger at not being able to access the PHP confidentially because she worked outside London.
'Last taboo'
Dr Gerada says the lack of confidentiality is a barrier and wants NHS England to extend the London approach to any doctor who needs support.
She believes acknowledging that doctors also have mental health problems is "the last taboo in the NHS".
Louise Freeman, a consultant in emergency medicine, says she left her job after she felt she could not access appropriate support for her depression.
"On the surface you might think 'Oh, doctors will get great mental health care because they'll know who to go to'.
"But actually we're kind of a hard-to-reach group. We can be quite worried about confidentiality," she said, adding that she believes doctors are afraid of coming forwards in case they lose their jobs.
"I was absolutely desperate to stay at work. I never wavered from that."
One of the biggest issues, according to Dr Gerada, is the effect on doctors of complaints from the public, which she says can "shatter their sense of self".
Sophie Spooner's death came two months after a complaint was made against her.
Nine months ago, consultant anaesthetist Richard Harding took his own life. A serious complaint had been made about him to the General Medical Council.
He was eventually cleared but the process took five months.
His wife Kate Harding, a GP, says it brought back depression he had not had for years.
"Those five months just felt endless. Even after the complaint had been shelved, he was the type of person - afterwards - who questioned his decisions a lot more.
"The effects are more long-lasting than you'd expect. I don't think it occurred to him to seek help."
Anna Rowland, assistant director of the GMC's fitness-to-practise department, said the organisation had made major reforms to its processes, with an emphasis on mental health, to ensure vulnerable doctors were identified and supported.
She said: "We're committed to continuing this work, and we're also keen to influence the way wellbeing is approached by other healthcare leaders through independent research... health organisations must come together to tackle these important issues."
NHS England said in a statement: "We launched the NHS GP Health service in 2017, a world-first, nationally funded confidential service which specialises in supporting GPs and trainee GPs experiencing mental ill health and which has already helped more than 1,500 GPs.
"NHS Trusts and clinical commissioning groups may offer additional support for professionals in their area, for example CCGs in London have commissioned the NHS practitioner health programme for their staff."
But Dr Laurel Spooner says more support is needed.
"If we don't learn lessons from this, these deaths will go on happening," she says.
Are you surprised by these rates of suicide amongst doctors?